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	<description>I'm not drinking the cu koolaid</description>
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		<title>By: Principle #3: Members&#8217; Economic Participation &#171; The CU Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Principle #3: Members&#8217; Economic Participation &#171; The CU Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s very clear that &#8220;owner&#8221; is a term that is appropriate. (Though I believe thinking of participates as &#8220;customers&#8221; is the more effective, there are those much more experience than I that would choose the word [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s very clear that &#8220;owner&#8221; is a term that is appropriate. (Though I believe thinking of participates as &#8220;customers&#8221; is the more effective, there are those much more experience than I that would choose the word [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Morriss Partee</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Morriss Partee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your story matters. Period. Now I have proof. $600,000 of proof.

http://everythingcu.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/think-your-story-doesnt-affect-your-bottom-line/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your story matters. Period. Now I have proof. $600,000 of proof.</p>
<p><a href="http://everythingcu.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/think-your-story-doesnt-affect-your-bottom-line/" rel="nofollow">http://everythingcu.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/think-your-story-doesnt-affect-your-bottom-line/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Van Court</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Van Court</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more.  Credit unions are not all created equally and many offer nothing better than the bank down the street.

However, I do believe that the co-op model inherently creates different motivations and accountabilities that are beneficial for consumers and difficult for banks to achieve because of their short-term responsibilities to investors.

Credit unions must also be focused on profitability, but the focus should be on advancing their value proposition to members rather than providing a good return to investors.  

The investors in credit unions are their member owners who use their products and services.  That’s why I still believe that when executed correctly and branded accordingly, ownership in a credit union can have real substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more.  Credit unions are not all created equally and many offer nothing better than the bank down the street.</p>
<p>However, I do believe that the co-op model inherently creates different motivations and accountabilities that are beneficial for consumers and difficult for banks to achieve because of their short-term responsibilities to investors.</p>
<p>Credit unions must also be focused on profitability, but the focus should be on advancing their value proposition to members rather than providing a good return to investors.  </p>
<p>The investors in credit unions are their member owners who use their products and services.  That’s why I still believe that when executed correctly and branded accordingly, ownership in a credit union can have real substance.</p>
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		<title>By: CU Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>CU Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

I can&#039;t help you there. I&#039;m of the opinion that an average credit union is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; better than an average bank. They are both average.

The key for the credit union, stop being AVERAGE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help you there. I&#8217;m of the opinion that an average credit union is <i>not</i> better than an average bank. They are both average.</p>
<p>The key for the credit union, stop being AVERAGE!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Demous</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Demous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptic, I think what frustrates me the most with CUs today, is that even from the inside, it is sometimes difficult for me to see the concrete reasons that the average CU is better for the consumer than the average bank.  And if I am having trouble seeing it, how can I expect the man on the street to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptic, I think what frustrates me the most with CUs today, is that even from the inside, it is sometimes difficult for me to see the concrete reasons that the average CU is better for the consumer than the average bank.  And if I am having trouble seeing it, how can I expect the man on the street to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: CU Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>CU Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

I think it&#039;s important to remember that &quot;value&quot; does not always mean &quot;benefits&quot;. Exclusivity can build value, but I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d call it a benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to remember that &#8220;value&#8221; does not always mean &#8220;benefits&#8221;. Exclusivity can build value, but I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d call it a benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Demous</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Demous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, to take that a step further, the differentiated delivery has to be conspicuous.  If the consumer can not readily see the benefits of &quot;membership&quot;, then the consumer is less likely to feel any loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, to take that a step further, the differentiated delivery has to be conspicuous.  If the consumer can not readily see the benefits of &#8220;membership&#8221;, then the consumer is less likely to feel any loyalty.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Van Court</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Van Court</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptic:  I agree with what you are saying.  Niches are important for all companies but your elitist characterization is spot on.

In the end, it always comes down to what specifically each person gets from the relationship.  What you call the consumer is pretty meaningless unless the term is backed by differentiated delivery that gives legitimate meaning and consequence to the terms used in messaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptic:  I agree with what you are saying.  Niches are important for all companies but your elitist characterization is spot on.</p>
<p>In the end, it always comes down to what specifically each person gets from the relationship.  What you call the consumer is pretty meaningless unless the term is backed by differentiated delivery that gives legitimate meaning and consequence to the terms used in messaging.</p>
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		<title>By: CU Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>CU Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here&#039;s my take:

Denise, as much as it hurts me to say, makes a good point. I am all about niche/specialized markets, and from that view, I really don&#039;t fit the outdoor extremist that REI is and should be after.

However, to think that me being outside this target group limits my ability to &quot;get the membership thing&quot; in regard to REI is a little elitist. I &lt;i&gt;understand&lt;/i&gt; what is being offered. It&#039;s just that the value of that offer is so small in my eyes that it doesn&#039;t impact my purchasing decisions.

But let&#039;s do what this blog is meant to do, bring this back to credit unions. Are there some people that just don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; membership? There are, but I think they are few and far between. I think a more accurate description may be that few people value credit union membership enough to allow it to impact their financial decisions.

Why? It&#039;s popular to point to expanding fields of membership as the reason, and I definitely lean that way. I hope to post more on this before the end of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here&#8217;s my take:</p>
<p>Denise, as much as it hurts me to say, makes a good point. I am all about niche/specialized markets, and from that view, I really don&#8217;t fit the outdoor extremist that REI is and should be after.</p>
<p>However, to think that me being outside this target group limits my ability to &#8220;get the membership thing&#8221; in regard to REI is a little elitist. I <i>understand</i> what is being offered. It&#8217;s just that the value of that offer is so small in my eyes that it doesn&#8217;t impact my purchasing decisions.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s do what this blog is meant to do, bring this back to credit unions. Are there some people that just don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; membership? There are, but I think they are few and far between. I think a more accurate description may be that few people value credit union membership enough to allow it to impact their financial decisions.</p>
<p>Why? It&#8217;s popular to point to expanding fields of membership as the reason, and I definitely lean that way. I hope to post more on this before the end of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Van Court</title>
		<link>http://cuskeptic.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/maybe-we-should-just-call-them-customers/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Van Court</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Skeptic, what&#039;s you&#039;re opinion regarding the comments made to this post?  

I am also curious if anyone supports Denise&#039;s position that &quot;you are not REI’s target audience. Period. That’s why you don’t get the membership thing.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Skeptic, what&#8217;s you&#8217;re opinion regarding the comments made to this post?  </p>
<p>I am also curious if anyone supports Denise&#8217;s position that &#8220;you are not REI’s target audience. Period. That’s why you don’t get the membership thing.”</p>
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